Dr Rosalind Watts on Psilocybin and Depression The Mindspace Podcast 36











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“The real medicine is the therapeutic relationship and psychedelics beautifully amplify that.” • In this episode of the Mindspace podcast, Dr. Joe speaks with Dr. Rosalind Watts. Dr. Watts is the clinical lead of the Imperial College of London's Psilocybin for Depression trials. Most recently, she designed the treatment protocol for and served as a guide for participants in a study comparing psilocybin to an antidepressant at the Centre for Psychedelic Research at Imperial College London. This study was published in the New England Journal of Medicine. And she is also a consultant psychologist for Small Pharma who are investigating DMT as a treatment for depression. • She is a clinical psychologist for more than 6 years, and now specializes in psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy. She is the clinical director for the Synthesis Institute, an organization dedicated to “training practitioners to safely, ethically and effectively support people on a journey for healing using truffles containing psilocybin.” She co-hosts a monthly Psychedelic Integration group, alongside Michelle Baker Jones for participants of psilocybin clinical trials. And she will be launching Twelve Trees Integration, a new 12 month psychedelic community integration program for anyone who has experience with psychedelics. You can sign up for the wait list here: https://www.drrosalindwatts.com • She also developed the psychedelic therapy model ‘Accept, Connect, Embody (ACE)’ and an iteration for group-based integration of psychedelic experiences ‘Accept, Connect, Embody, Restore' (ACER). It is based on the Hexaflex model in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). • Dr. Watts and Dr. Joe spoke about: • 0:00 Introduction • 4:22 How did you get into psychedelic therapy? • 9:25 Results from her most recent psilocybin for depression research • 20:54 The challenges of doing psychedelic therapy research • 23:51 Community integration group for participants after study • 32:02 Depression, psilocybin, and the seasons of change analogy • 38:41 What is psychological flexibility and the ACE model? • 45:28 ACE Body Scan / Visualization Exercise • 1:04:02 What are the challenges of integrating psychedelics into the main stream? • 1:09:05 What are you working on now? • You can listen to the episode here: • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast... • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6OHU... • Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0... • Check out other episodes here: • Site: http://themindspacepodcast.com • If you would like to keep updated with new releases of the Mindspace podcast, sign up for our newsletter here: https://www.mindspacewellbeing.com/ne... • Connect with Dr. Rosalind Watts on • Instagram:   / drrosalindwatts   • Facebook:   / rosalind.watts.353   • Twitter:   / drrosalindwatts   • LinkedIn:   / dr-rosalind-watts   • Connect with Dr. Joe on • Facebook:   / drjoeflandersmindspace   • Instagram:   / joeflanders   • Twitter:   / drjoeflanders   • LinkedIn:   / dr-joe-flanders-24503517   • Follow Mindspace on • Facebook:   / mindspacewellbeing   • Twitter:   / mindspaceclinic   • LinkedIn:   / mindspace-wellbeing   • Instagram:   / mindspacewellbeing   • Follow Numinus on • Facebook:   / numinuswellness   • Twitter:   / numinuswellness   • Instagram:   / numinusinc   • YouTube:    / channel   • LinkedIn:   / numinuswellness   • #PsilocybinForDepression #PsilocybinResearch

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