Jon KabatZinn on How Mindfulness Offers Liberation from Suffering

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Mindfulness expert Dr. Jon Kabat-Zinn discusses how mindfulness can help liberate people's suffering. • To rent or stream the full interview with Jon Kabat-Zinn click here: https://psychalivemedia.pivotshare.co... • Visit PsychAlive.org for more from this exclusive interview with Dr. Jon Kabat-Zinn: http://www.psychalive.org/2013/01/exc.... • Mindfulness for Life a full length interview with Dr. Jon Kabat-Zinn is available for purchase: http://www.glendon.org/product-post/m.... • Transcript: • We’ll have judgments, you know, endlessly. Because we’ve got ideas and opinions about just about everything. And likes and dislikes. But, what awareness does is it doesn’t say, “OK, no judging.” That’s not what mindfulness is about. It’s about welcoming the judging and holding that in awareness and seeing how caught up we are in our own likes and dislikes. How driven we are by that kind of impulse to cling and to grasp and to self identify. Or, if you don’t like it, if it’s aversive, push it away: I hate this. I don’t want this. This is frightening. And then, who suffers? Who suffers from that? We suffer. We suffer if we cling. We suffer if we recoil. So, if this is about liberation from suffering, the only thing that can actually liberate us from our own delusion and our own craziness, uh, and our own fear and our own lack of comfort in our own skin is this essence of being that is already OK. It’s not like the people who come to our clinic with cancer and heart disease and chronic pain and everything – they have all these major diseases and disorders. But we’re not trying to take it away from them or fix it. We’re inviting them to put out the welcome mat for the full dimensionality of their experience, befriend how it is in the body, even if that’s the last place you want to go. To turn towards the intensity of the pain in the body or in the heart and to embrace it. And when you do that, things shift. And very often, the very body, as well as the brain and as well as the bones, as well as the skin have its ear to the rail and it starts to shift because we’re one unified biological whole. We’re an organism. And so when we align in a certain way with mindfulness, there’s a, there’s a way in which the physiology follows. • Now, studies are coming out now that are showing that in eight weeks of training with MBSR, we have morphological changes in all sorts of brain regions. Not just activity changes in the prefrontal cortex. But actually morphological thickening in regions of the hippocampus, which is involved in learning and memory and also various other regions of the brain that altogether actually collaborate in allowing us to navigate our life and make wise, discerning decisions about what’s valuable, what’s not valuable, what’s going to cause more pain, what’s going to cause more suffering, what’s going to cause greater happiness. And then to navigate in that kind of a way. So the research is pointing very much in that direction.

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